Comments on: The Dangers of Being Under –and Over– Qualified During a Recession http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/ Jeremiah Owyang discusses how web tools and social media enable companies to connect with customers Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:49:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: 1123 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-1157839 1123 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:16:21 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-1157839 Hello i am a student and im relii stuck on a question about " the dangers of over marketing for an event" and i was hoing tha you culd give me some suggestions! :D .... Hello i am a student and im relii stuck on a question about ” the dangers of over marketing for an event” and i was hoing tha you culd give me some suggestions! :D ….

]]> By: 1123 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-1155286 1123 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:16:21 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-1155286 Hello i am a student and im relii stuck on a question about " the dangers of over marketing for an event" and i was hoing tha you culd give me some suggestions! :D .... Hello i am a student and im relii stuck on a question about ” the dangers of over marketing for an event” and i was hoing tha you culd give me some suggestions! :D ….

]]> By: Gray Rinehart http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-1145258 Gray Rinehart Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:09:18 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-1145258 When I retired from the military a few years ago, and the job I had lined up didn't come through, a lot of my experience was either outdated -- I hadn't managed a big project in a few years -- or irrelevant to the private sector -- not a lot of call for space & missile command & control experience in the Research Triangle area. I went with the "suck it up and apply for less than desirable positions" option, and ended up with two part-time jobs: one a dream, and the other ... a good learning experience. I still have the part-time dream job, and have traded the learning experience for a full-time near-dream job, so I consider myself very blessed.<br><br>I don't remember where I heard or read this advice, but I find it to be helpful: as you interact with people -- whether in person or on the phone or over the Internet -- don't focus so much on what that person can do for you. Instead, think about what you might be able to do for them. It's the difference between coming to someone with hat in hand, and coming to them with a helping hand. When I retired from the military a few years ago, and the job I had lined up didn't come through, a lot of my experience was either outdated — I hadn't managed a big project in a few years — or irrelevant to the private sector — not a lot of call for space & missile command & control experience in the Research Triangle area. I went with the “suck it up and apply for less than desirable positions” option, and ended up with two part-time jobs: one a dream, and the other … a good learning experience. I still have the part-time dream job, and have traded the learning experience for a full-time near-dream job, so I consider myself very blessed.

I don't remember where I heard or read this advice, but I find it to be helpful: as you interact with people — whether in person or on the phone or over the Internet — don't focus so much on what that person can do for you. Instead, think about what you might be able to do for them. It's the difference between coming to someone with hat in hand, and coming to them with a helping hand.

]]> By: The Dangers of Being Under- and Over-Qualified During a Recession | Adrian Roman http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-897566 The Dangers of Being Under- and Over-Qualified During a Recession | Adrian Roman Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:09:46 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-897566 [...] Source: Web Strategist [...]

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]]> By: vicki http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-882680 vicki Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:40:16 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-882680 My issue is, and it's one I don't often see addressed, that I am already in a job I'm overqualified for, making much less money than a position I'd like to apply for that I'm *also* overqualified for. So, I want the other job, because it would pay twice what I'm making now, but I fear my application will be rejected because I'm "overqualified" and I will remain stuck in this low paying position I now have, and really need to move out of. My issue is, and it’s one I don’t often see addressed, that I am already in a job I’m overqualified for, making much less money than a position I’d like to apply for that I’m *also* overqualified for. So, I want the other job, because it would pay twice what I’m making now, but I fear my application will be rejected because I’m “overqualified” and I will remain stuck in this low paying position I now have, and really need to move out of.

]]> By: Wendy http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-879730 Wendy Sun, 08 Feb 2009 05:39:58 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-879730 If you are just hitting the mobility pool, I would suggest volunteering with a nonprofit to 1)explore, 2)explain gaps in employment since it could be a while before you get back into stable employment in your field. 3) to prevent from sinking into to depression &/or anxiety. Also consider you may want to go into business for yourself if you have some margins. I hope this helps. If you are just hitting the mobility pool, I would suggest volunteering with a nonprofit to 1)explore, 2)explain gaps in employment since it could be a while before you get back into stable employment in your field. 3) to prevent from sinking into to depression &/or anxiety. Also consider you may want to go into business for yourself if you have some margins. I hope this helps.

]]> By: What you Need To Be Thinking About Regarding Social Media and Layoffs http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-878924 What you Need To Be Thinking About Regarding Social Media and Layoffs Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:09:12 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-878924 [...] Got Laid Off? You’ve A Stigma I speak to a lot of CEOs in my job as an Industry Analyst, and I’ve been asking them where they would hire top talent from, from the existing workforce (already have a job) or those that god laid off. Each one (over 5) told me that they would still try to poach top talent from existing positions, sadly those that were laid off on first round have a stigma attached to them. In fact, some of you may be over and under qualified, and you should know the dangers and solutions. [...]

[...] Got Laid Off? You’ve A Stigma I speak to a lot of CEOs in my job as an Industry Analyst, and I’ve been asking them where they would hire top talent from, from the existing workforce (already have a job) or those that god laid off. Each one (over 5) told me that they would still try to poach top talent from existing positions, sadly those that were laid off on first round have a stigma attached to them. In fact, some of you may be over and under qualified, and you should know the dangers and solutions. [...]

]]> By: jeremiah_owyang http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-878590 jeremiah_owyang Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:50:15 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-878590 Rachel, sorry to hear about that, but glad you've made the best out of it. Rachel, sorry to hear about that, but glad you’ve made the best out of it.

]]> By: Rachel Luxemburg http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-878555 Rachel Luxemburg Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:07:02 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-878555 During the last dark days I had to suck it up, dumb down my resume, and get a retail job to keep a roof over my head. It was not what I wanted to do with my life but even so, I made a point of doing the best job I possibly could there. I got promoted 2x in the 18 months I worked for the company and when I finally left (to go get that MBA!), I walked away feeling like I'd taken a lemon and turned it into lemonade. During the last dark days I had to suck it up, dumb down my resume, and get a retail job to keep a roof over my head. It was not what I wanted to do with my life but even so, I made a point of doing the best job I possibly could there.

I got promoted 2x in the 18 months I worked for the company and when I finally left (to go get that MBA!), I walked away feeling like I’d taken a lemon and turned it into lemonade.

]]> By: You’re the star of your own career | Patio Genius http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-877106 You’re the star of your own career | Patio Genius Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:27:56 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-877106 [...] your edge. Never forget that there are all too many equally qualified people competing with [...]

[...] your edge. Never forget that there are all too many equally qualified people competing with [...]

]]> By: Are you over or under qualified for the job? « Survival Mode http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-876402 Are you over or under qualified for the job? « Survival Mode Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:47:42 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-876402 [...] you over or under qualified for the job? Jeremiah Owyang wrote a post yesterday about the dangers of being under or over qualified during this economy. He provides helpful tips on what to consider when applying or interviewing jobs, especially with [...]

[...] you over or under qualified for the job? Jeremiah Owyang wrote a post yesterday about the dangers of being under or over qualified during this economy. He provides helpful tips on what to consider when applying or interviewing jobs, especially with [...]

]]> By: The Dangers of Being Under or Over Qualified During a Recession | ReachCustomersOnline.com http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-876196 The Dangers of Being Under or Over Qualified During a Recession | ReachCustomersOnline.com Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:08:36 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-876196 [...] Jeremiah Owyang, a Senior Analyst at Forrester Research. Includes some useful links and advice whether you have a [...]

[...] Jeremiah Owyang, a Senior Analyst at Forrester Research. Includes some useful links and advice whether you have a [...]

]]> By: Morning Edition - Feb 5, 2009 « Sazbean http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-876123 Morning Edition - Feb 5, 2009 « Sazbean Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:01:52 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-876123 [...] The Dangers of Being Under and Over Qualified During a Recession (Web Strategy by Jeremiah) [...]

[...] The Dangers of Being Under and Over Qualified During a Recession (Web Strategy by Jeremiah) [...]

]]> By: King http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-876096 King Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:43:16 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-876096 Excellent advice, even in non-recession times. The recession hasn't yet hit us that hard, but where I'm from, there's always the annoying verdict after an interview that "You're over qualified" for a position. So much that it's a vicious cycle. The job you really want requires 5 years work experience, the job you want to get experience from claims you're too qualified. My biggest advice to a lot of people is to first do whatever you can get your hands on. One you get paid, and two, you get experience. Even jobs that are almost like an apprenticeship (tonnes of work, minimum wage) are good for experience, especially in a related field / industry. Besides, you'd be surprised the things you can learn. Be open. You'll land that position you crave with enough patience. Excellent advice, even in non-recession times.

The recession hasn’t yet hit us that hard, but where I’m from, there’s always the annoying verdict after an interview that “You’re over qualified” for a position.

So much that it’s a vicious cycle. The job you really want requires 5 years work experience, the job you want to get experience from claims you’re too qualified.

My biggest advice to a lot of people is to first do whatever you can get your hands on. One you get paid, and two, you get experience. Even jobs that are almost like an apprenticeship (tonnes of work, minimum wage) are good for experience, especially in a related field / industry. Besides, you’d be surprised the things you can learn.

Be open.

You’ll land that position you crave with enough patience.

]]> By: Linkpost « NIMB http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-875698 Linkpost « NIMB Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:18:28 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-875698 [...] Danger of being over- and under-qualified via @brooksbayne [...]

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]]> By: jeremiah_owyang http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-875252 jeremiah_owyang Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:33:54 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-875252 Thanks Kid Sister! I'll add these to the post. Thanks Kid Sister! I’ll add these to the post.

]]> By: The Kid Sister http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-875251 The Kid Sister Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:32:25 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-875251 I would also like to add my advice for your college student readers: Also take advantage of the career fairs and the career center at your school! This is one thing that I regret now that I've graduated from college. I was the student who kept putting things off, thinking I'd have no problem landing a good job after graduation. And believe me, there are many students who think the way I did so this lessens the competition between yourself and other students. Don't be afraid to put yourself out there... The companies at the career fairs are actually looking for fresh faces and are ready to hire you for entry level jobs. So you really have nothing to lose. I was lucky enough to have networked my way into my current job because I worked and interned all throughout college, but some of my friends who did not work or intern have taken months, some even years, only to settle with an insatiable job or no job at all. I would also like to add my advice for your college student readers: Also take advantage of the career fairs and the career center at your school! This is one thing that I regret now that I’ve graduated from college. I was the student who kept putting things off, thinking I’d have no problem landing a good job after graduation. And believe me, there are many students who think the way I did so this lessens the competition between yourself and other students. Don’t be afraid to put yourself out there… The companies at the career fairs are actually looking for fresh faces and are ready to hire you for entry level jobs. So you really have nothing to lose. I was lucky enough to have networked my way into my current job because I worked and interned all throughout college, but some of my friends who did not work or intern have taken months, some even years, only to settle with an insatiable job or no job at all.

]]> By: Jenifer Olson http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-875143 Jenifer Olson Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:00:41 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-875143 I've been part of the 'mobility pool' for several months now, and have actually interviewed for a few lower management positions I would have loved at one point in my career, but now would gladly settle for. And you know what? I didn't get the jobs. I really wasn't the best fit -- they knew it and so did I. So, what to do? The danger is 'negative inertia,' a term a friend of mine coined to describe that state of wanting to do something but not doing anything because you don't know what to do. :-) To avoid this all too real mind trap, I set daily mini-goals for myself that will hopefully, eventually get me where I need to be (apply to 3 jobs, walk 3 miles, network with 3 people, read a chapter of a bestseller, explore social media, etc.). Helps me feel like I'm heading in the right direction. I also look for ways to help friends in the same situation. I recommend, I refer, I encourage and I listen. I give because it makes me feel like I'm still making a positive contribution. I tend to agree with the guy who wrote The Pluto Files: "In life, and in the universe, it is always best to keep looking up." I’ve been part of the ‘mobility pool’ for several months now, and have actually interviewed for a few lower management positions I would have loved at one point in my career, but now would gladly settle for. And you know what? I didn’t get the jobs. I really wasn’t the best fit — they knew it and so did I. So, what to do?

The danger is ‘negative inertia,’ a term a friend of mine coined to describe that state of wanting to do something but not doing anything because you don’t know what to do. :-) To avoid this all too real mind trap, I set daily mini-goals for myself that will hopefully, eventually get me where I need to be (apply to 3 jobs, walk 3 miles, network with 3 people, read a chapter of a bestseller, explore social media, etc.). Helps me feel like I’m heading in the right direction.

I also look for ways to help friends in the same situation. I recommend, I refer, I encourage and I listen. I give because it makes me feel like I’m still making a positive contribution. I tend to agree with the guy who wrote The Pluto Files: “In life, and in the universe, it is always best to keep looking up.”

]]> By: Curt http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-875065 Curt Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:33:49 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-875065 The computer manufacturer I worked for removed me (marcom mgr) and one of my people (marcom specialist) and created a per-hour position at half the specialists wage to do both her job and mine. I understand the need to cut, but how many times does the no-mkt-materials-->lower sales spiral have to play out before something new is tried? The computer manufacturer I worked for removed me (marcom mgr) and one of my people (marcom specialist) and created a per-hour position at half the specialists wage to do both her job and mine. I understand the need to cut, but how many times does the no-mkt-materials–>lower sales spiral have to play out before something new is tried?

]]> By: Rob Williams http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/comment-page-1/#comment-875044 Rob Williams Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:19:03 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2009/02/04/the-dangers-of-being-under-and-over-qualified-during-a-recession/#comment-875044 I totally relate. I've started a small business to keep me sharp and hopefully bring in some money. But the economy is hitting my clients too. I try to interview for full-time positions but many are in a hiring freeze. I'm positive there will be a good job for me in the near future - in fact I'd say I'd be working full-time if not for the bad economy. So I continue to network, stay engaged, and help out where I can with anyone needing advice. But it's turning into a race between running out of our savings vs finding adequate income. It's tough. I totally relate. I’ve started a small business to keep me sharp and hopefully bring in some money. But the economy is hitting my clients too. I try to interview for full-time positions but many are in a hiring freeze. I’m positive there will be a good job for me in the near future – in fact I’d say I’d be working full-time if not for the bad economy. So I continue to network, stay engaged, and help out where I can with anyone needing advice. But it’s turning into a race between running out of our savings vs finding adequate income. It’s tough.

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