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	<title>Comments on: Community Managers Must Deliver ROI: Commandments For Surviving a Recession</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; Stratégie en médias sociaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Stratégie en médias sociaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] C&#8217;est bien souvent une étape sous-estimée et certains Community Managers en ont fait les frais (consultez cet article.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Haber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Haber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post, Jeremy.

In light of some new data that emerged on eMarketer indicating that marketers aren&#039;t measuring their social media results, I&#039;ve posted brief overview of ways to measure social media success.

http://www.davehaber.ca/interactive-objectives-blog/2009/9/23/measuring-social-media-success-fail.html

All the best,

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, Jeremy.</p>
<p>In light of some new data that emerged on eMarketer indicating that marketers aren&#8217;t measuring their social media results, I&#8217;ve posted brief overview of ways to measure social media success.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.davehaber.ca/interactive-objectives-blog/2009/9/23/measuring-social-media-success-fail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.davehaber.ca/interactive-objectives-blog/2009/9/23/measuring-social-media-success-fail.html</a></p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Why Does Everyone Believe Community ROI Is So Hard To Measure? &#124; Impact Interactions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Does Everyone Believe Community ROI Is So Hard To Measure? &#124; Impact Interactions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 15:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] finished reading Jeremiah Owyang&#8217;s blog on ROI for online communities and social media. The entry is here. Jeremiah&#8217;s suggestions are accurate and some of the comments from our colleagues are really [...]</description>
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<p>[...] finished reading Jeremiah Owyang&#8217;s blog on ROI for online communities and social media. The entry is here. Jeremiah&#8217;s suggestions are accurate and some of the comments from our colleagues are really [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Importance of Measuring Social Media&#8217;s Impact on Sales &#38; Marketing &#124; Professional Blog Service</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Importance of Measuring Social Media&#8217;s Impact on Sales &#38; Marketing &#124; Professional Blog Service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A few months ago, social media guru Jeremiah Owyang wrote how online community managers need to prov... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A little more on ROI &#171; Kendall Wadsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>A little more on ROI &#171; Kendall Wadsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Owyang of Forrester Research writes about in his post on how important ROI is now during the recession for many professionals working in PR and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carnet de Com » links for 2009-04-01</title>
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		<title>By: Lectura obligada: semana 2 &#124; Marca Beta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lectura obligada: semana 2 &#124; Marca Beta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Community Managers Must Deliver ROI: Commandments For Surviving a Recession &#124; Web Strategy by Jeremiah [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Email Marketing Strategy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Community Managers Must Deliver ROI: Commandments For Surviving a ...</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Another fellow blogger added an interesting post on Community Managers Must Deliver ROI: Commandments For Surviving a &#8230;Here&#8217;s a small excerptWeb Strategy by Jeremiah Owyang &#124; Social Media, Web Marketing. Jeremiah Owyang discusses how web tools and social media enable companies to connect with customers &#8230;. name (required). email ( will not be shown ) (required). website &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Persuasive Picks for the week of 01/25/08 : PerkettPRsuasion - The PerkettPR Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Persuasive Picks for the week of 01/25/08 : PerkettPRsuasion - The PerkettPR Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Community Managers Must Deliver ROI: Commandments For Surviving a Recession Jeremiah Owyang provides sound advice to Community Managers on how to step up their game, provide continuing value and (most importantly) help keep their jobs in these tough economic times. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Donnie Berkholz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donnie Berkholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When trying to justify the awareness-to-close to your business, you can make analogies to things they understand like the length of time inventory sits in the warehouse before being sold. It&#039;s money you don&#039;t have because it&#039;s sunk into people who haven&#039;t bought your product yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When trying to justify the awareness-to-close to your business, you can make analogies to things they understand like the length of time inventory sits in the warehouse before being sold. It&#8217;s money you don&#8217;t have because it&#8217;s sunk into people who haven&#8217;t bought your product yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hammond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;m seeing more of is companies firing their community manager and asking them to work on a contract basis instead of as an employee. By 1099-ing the employee they clear them from the company benefits plan, 401-k and equity options, and avoid payroll taxes. The company can also choose to modify the amount of work they are paying for on a week to week or month to month basis instead of paying a static salary/benefits amount. So it works well for the company (and since we provide community managers on a contractual basis we aren&#039;t complaining here at Nattergalen either) but to an employee who finds themselves suddenly needing to pay COBRA fees for health care, pay their own income taxes and fund and manage their retirement solo it can be a really stressful transition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;m seeing more of is companies firing their community manager and asking them to work on a contract basis instead of as an employee. By 1099-ing the employee they clear them from the company benefits plan, 401-k and equity options, and avoid payroll taxes. The company can also choose to modify the amount of work they are paying for on a week to week or month to month basis instead of paying a static salary/benefits amount. So it works well for the company (and since we provide community managers on a contractual basis we aren&#8217;t complaining here at Nattergalen either) but to an employee who finds themselves suddenly needing to pay COBRA fees for health care, pay their own income taxes and fund and manage their retirement solo it can be a really stressful transition.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pascucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Pascucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very important that a Community Manager highlights the &quot;wins&quot; that have resulted because of the Community offerings that a company provides. 
Community managers need to be the &quot;Internal Evangelist&quot; for these companies. Let everyone know what is happening, and develop an internal communication process to distribute any and all information about your Community. As Jeremiah mentions above the community manager can live in numerous departments, which could be a blessing, as well as a curse. 
Whether it is the direct feedback that resulted in a more efficient product/service, the lowering of support costs, or the ability to create brand loyalty....ROI means something different to everyone. 

Mike P / @nhscooch
Mzinga</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very important that a Community Manager highlights the &#8220;wins&#8221; that have resulted because of the Community offerings that a company provides.<br />
Community managers need to be the &#8220;Internal Evangelist&#8221; for these companies. Let everyone know what is happening, and develop an internal communication process to distribute any and all information about your Community. As Jeremiah mentions above the community manager can live in numerous departments, which could be a blessing, as well as a curse.<br />
Whether it is the direct feedback that resulted in a more efficient product/service, the lowering of support costs, or the ability to create brand loyalty&#8230;.ROI means something different to everyone. </p>
<p>Mike P / @nhscooch<br />
Mzinga</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rowland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find interesting about this topic is the general disagreement of the relevance of ROI in the discussions of community and social media experts. Just yesterday our team attended a webinar where a &#039;measurement&#039; expert didn&#039;t have a really good handle on not only why ROI calculations are important to communities, but how to do them with the data available. Others in the Social Media space blog frequently that ROI is either tough to do or not relevant. 

At Impact Interactions, we believe that ROI is a crucial element of the community building and management process. You must start building your framework before the community even launches, then refine it over time. But you cannot use just the metrics from your community, you must align them with additional data from within the organization (CRM records for B2B for example).

For B2B support clients, we measure technical questions answered by members as a cost avoidance measure to demonstrate the scalability of the community versus call center costs. We supplement it with survey data on customer satisfaction, purchase influence, and information utility. It all adds up to a large ROI. 

For a marketing focused B2B community, we built a framework that demonstrated the influence that the community had in influencing sales of multi-million dollar contracts. We mined the transactional data and compared it with the CRM records to develop a pattern of influence on sales velocity, lead generation, and sales.

For a B2C automotive parts company, we compared sales transactions from the companies e-commerce database with community transactions to find the ROI for the community. It also reinforced the powerful notion that community members were buying more frequently than non-community members and that each purchase transaction was larger than those of non-community members.

For a B2C subscription based service, at Participate.com we demonstrated that community members churned at a rate 50% lower than non-community members, resulting in millions of dollars of revenue and profits.

Each of these clients had an ROI on their community of over 100% once their communities scaled.

It is not hard to develop the ROI framework, but it does take time and relationships within the organization to get the appropriate data. If you are a community manager, you need to build a network outside of the community area in your organization in order to align the community&#039;s analytics with your organization&#039;s focus and goals. Only then will you be able to tap into CRM or e-commerce databases to validate your framework.

We have some basics on B2B ROI in presentations available for free in our Social Media Resource Center on our website. Please feel free to visit and download the presentations. In our introductory deck on Impact Interactions, we have quotes from Cisco, Mercury Interactive, and ATT on their ROI from their online community efforts. Here is the link: http://www.impactinteractions.com/social-media-resource-center.html

What Jeremiah has posted is absolutely spot on. But is up to you as a community manager to act. In this environment, you cannot afford to have your community (and job) viewed as a soft application that doesn&#039;t produce tangible, measurable results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find interesting about this topic is the general disagreement of the relevance of ROI in the discussions of community and social media experts. Just yesterday our team attended a webinar where a &#8216;measurement&#8217; expert didn&#8217;t have a really good handle on not only why ROI calculations are important to communities, but how to do them with the data available. Others in the Social Media space blog frequently that ROI is either tough to do or not relevant. </p>
<p>At Impact Interactions, we believe that ROI is a crucial element of the community building and management process. You must start building your framework before the community even launches, then refine it over time. But you cannot use just the metrics from your community, you must align them with additional data from within the organization (CRM records for B2B for example).</p>
<p>For B2B support clients, we measure technical questions answered by members as a cost avoidance measure to demonstrate the scalability of the community versus call center costs. We supplement it with survey data on customer satisfaction, purchase influence, and information utility. It all adds up to a large ROI. </p>
<p>For a marketing focused B2B community, we built a framework that demonstrated the influence that the community had in influencing sales of multi-million dollar contracts. We mined the transactional data and compared it with the CRM records to develop a pattern of influence on sales velocity, lead generation, and sales.</p>
<p>For a B2C automotive parts company, we compared sales transactions from the companies e-commerce database with community transactions to find the ROI for the community. It also reinforced the powerful notion that community members were buying more frequently than non-community members and that each purchase transaction was larger than those of non-community members.</p>
<p>For a B2C subscription based service, at Participate.com we demonstrated that community members churned at a rate 50% lower than non-community members, resulting in millions of dollars of revenue and profits.</p>
<p>Each of these clients had an ROI on their community of over 100% once their communities scaled.</p>
<p>It is not hard to develop the ROI framework, but it does take time and relationships within the organization to get the appropriate data. If you are a community manager, you need to build a network outside of the community area in your organization in order to align the community&#8217;s analytics with your organization&#8217;s focus and goals. Only then will you be able to tap into CRM or e-commerce databases to validate your framework.</p>
<p>We have some basics on B2B ROI in presentations available for free in our Social Media Resource Center on our website. Please feel free to visit and download the presentations. In our introductory deck on Impact Interactions, we have quotes from Cisco, Mercury Interactive, and ATT on their ROI from their online community efforts. Here is the link: <a href="http://www.impactinteractions.com/social-media-resource-center.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.impactinteractions.com/social-media-resource-center.html</a></p>
<p>What Jeremiah has posted is absolutely spot on. But is up to you as a community manager to act. In this environment, you cannot afford to have your community (and job) viewed as a soft application that doesn&#8217;t produce tangible, measurable results.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Kanter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Kanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian&#039;s comment made me wonder about the follow up analysis and communication of the results to decision-makers after you have those numbers.  What happens if your cost per lead for your community is higher than other marketing channels?  

With nonprofits, they look at numbers, but also have to look at how the technology supports their overall mission of service both in the short term and long term.  So, while some activities don&#039;t necessarily &quot;bring a profit&quot;  -- they have to quantify and qualify outcomes or changes (positive) on the people served.  

Numbers are important, but how you package and tell the story behind the numbers is also important and how you communicate that to decision-makers sharpening knives.
 
ROI Story Telling Techniques for nonprofits.  Perhaps they not all are translatable to profit driven endeavors and not sure if these hold water in a recession.

    * A well prepared ROI analysis incorporates both the numbers and non-financial factors into a concise and informative presentation

    * The purpose is to demonstrate concrete value.

    * The ROI analysis should present the key issues, numbers, and facts while spotlighting the investment’s contribution the organization’s mission and people served.
    
    * ROI numbers, no matter how compelling, may not speak for themselves. They need context.  That&#039;s where the survey data can help - and also getting a specific and compelling story to make the numbers come to life.

    * Clever storytelling is one of the quickest and most effective ways to gain understanding

    * Creating effective stories to share the numbers also takes understanding your audience -- what do the decision-makers care most about?  Understand how and where to place stories and numbers for the most impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian&#8217;s comment made me wonder about the follow up analysis and communication of the results to decision-makers after you have those numbers.  What happens if your cost per lead for your community is higher than other marketing channels?  </p>
<p>With nonprofits, they look at numbers, but also have to look at how the technology supports their overall mission of service both in the short term and long term.  So, while some activities don&#8217;t necessarily &#8220;bring a profit&#8221;  &#8212; they have to quantify and qualify outcomes or changes (positive) on the people served.  </p>
<p>Numbers are important, but how you package and tell the story behind the numbers is also important and how you communicate that to decision-makers sharpening knives.</p>
<p>ROI Story Telling Techniques for nonprofits.  Perhaps they not all are translatable to profit driven endeavors and not sure if these hold water in a recession.</p>
<p>    * A well prepared ROI analysis incorporates both the numbers and non-financial factors into a concise and informative presentation</p>
<p>    * The purpose is to demonstrate concrete value.</p>
<p>    * The ROI analysis should present the key issues, numbers, and facts while spotlighting the investment’s contribution the organization’s mission and people served.</p>
<p>    * ROI numbers, no matter how compelling, may not speak for themselves. They need context.  That&#8217;s where the survey data can help &#8211; and also getting a specific and compelling story to make the numbers come to life.</p>
<p>    * Clever storytelling is one of the quickest and most effective ways to gain understanding</p>
<p>    * Creating effective stories to share the numbers also takes understanding your audience &#8212; what do the decision-makers care most about?  Understand how and where to place stories and numbers for the most impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Person</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremiah:

A very timely post.  One of the steps I&#039;m taking at LiveWorld (where I&#039;m the &quot;social media evangelist&quot;) is creating a simple spreadsheet that tracks my leads, particularly at physical events that I attend and that we using marketing budget for. 

A rudimentary calculation -- and one that doesn&#039;t necessarily account for relationship building that may prove to be more fruitful in the &lt;i&gt;long term&lt;/i&gt; -- is total cost of events (conference ticket, travel/lodging costs, etc.) / divided by number of leads generated. That gives you a cost per lead!

Surveying our customers is a brilliant idea, too, and one I&#039;d like to implement shortly.  

Bryan &#124; @BryanPerson
LiveWorld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah:</p>
<p>A very timely post.  One of the steps I&#8217;m taking at LiveWorld (where I&#8217;m the &#8220;social media evangelist&#8221;) is creating a simple spreadsheet that tracks my leads, particularly at physical events that I attend and that we using marketing budget for. </p>
<p>A rudimentary calculation &#8212; and one that doesn&#8217;t necessarily account for relationship building that may prove to be more fruitful in the <i>long term</i> &#8212; is total cost of events (conference ticket, travel/lodging costs, etc.) / divided by number of leads generated. That gives you a cost per lead!</p>
<p>Surveying our customers is a brilliant idea, too, and one I&#8217;d like to implement shortly.  </p>
<p>Bryan | @BryanPerson<br />
LiveWorld</p>
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		<title>By: Glam Media acquires AdaptiveAds &#124; socialmediainfluence.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glam Media acquires AdaptiveAds &#124; socialmediainfluence.com</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: marketing.Social-bookmark.me</title>
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		<dc:creator>marketing.Social-bookmark.me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;les Community Managers doivent booster le ROI, ou prendre la porte...&lt;/strong&gt;

Si les agences ont avec plus ou moins de velocité embauché des community managers, elle ont été promptes à les mettre à la porte à l&#039;aube de la crise (c&#039;est à dire maintenant ;-).  Jeremiah Owyang dresse quelques idées à destination des Com...</description>
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<p><strong>les Community Managers doivent booster le ROI, ou prendre la porte&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Si les agences ont avec plus ou moins de velocité embauché des community managers, elle ont été promptes à les mettre à la porte à l&#8217;aube de la crise (c&#8217;est à dire maintenant <img src='http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Jeremiah Owyang dresse quelques idées à destination des Com&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Delivering R.O.I. as a Community Manager &#124; Kurt Schmidt</dc:creator>
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