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	<title>Comments on: Why &#8216;Friending&#8217; Will Be Obsolete</title>
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	<description>Jeremiah Owyang discusses how web tools and social media enable companies to connect with customers</description>
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		<title>By: portable gps</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/29/why-friending-will-be-an-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-1194086</link>
		<dc:creator>portable gps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 08:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to explore this article, thanks.&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to explore this article, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Dewald</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Dewald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is some good stuff Jeremiah. I wonder if we&#039;ll see a new employment category related to &quot;Teaching the System.&quot; In particular, what areas of human experience will we teach it and why? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obviously the nature of human relationships (&quot;friending&quot; and &quot;business contacts&quot; being the subsets of that we&#039;re working on now). But others as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Currently I&#039;m most interested in locality or geography, the whole place/space thing. Using mobile technology for machines (GPS) we&#039;ll probably get some of the data. Using mobile technology for humans (iPhone/Android/ec) we might gather some of the meaning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe the Intelligent Web will be able to cross the street on it&#039;s own someday. And then maybe learn about the street and where it goes, why we use streets, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fascinating post. Can&#039;t wait to read more, my gears are churning through it already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is some good stuff Jeremiah. I wonder if we&#39;ll see a new employment category related to &#8220;Teaching the System.&#8221; In particular, what areas of human experience will we teach it and why? </p>
<p>Obviously the nature of human relationships (&#8220;friending&#8221; and &#8220;business contacts&#8221; being the subsets of that we&#39;re working on now). But others as well.</p>
<p>Currently I&#39;m most interested in locality or geography, the whole place/space thing. Using mobile technology for machines (GPS) we&#39;ll probably get some of the data. Using mobile technology for humans (iPhone/Android/ec) we might gather some of the meaning.</p>
<p>Maybe the Intelligent Web will be able to cross the street on it&#39;s own someday. And then maybe learn about the street and where it goes, why we use streets, etc.</p>
<p>Fascinating post. Can&#39;t wait to read more, my gears are churning through it already.</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 tools en productiviteit &#124; Kris blogt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 tools en productiviteit &#124; Kris blogt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ik mij er echter op dat ik oeverloos veel tijd besteed aan het delen van informatie en friending. Vriendjes worden is overbodig. Het is zo jammer dat het niet echt bijdraagt tot mijn productiviteit. Het is allemaal zeer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ik mij er echter op dat ik oeverloos veel tijd besteed aan het delen van informatie en friending. Vriendjes worden is overbodig. Het is zo jammer dat het niet echt bijdraagt tot mijn productiviteit. Het is allemaal zeer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Research Status: The Future of the Social Web, Social Media In A Recession</title>
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		<dc:creator>Research Status: The Future of the Social Web, Social Media In A Recession</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] them perhaps by the end of this year. I blog about some of the concepts and theories as I know that friending will someday go away, and when CRM systems connect to social networks registrations pages will be extinct. It feels good [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] them perhaps by the end of this year. I blog about some of the concepts and theories as I know that friending will someday go away, and when CRM systems connect to social networks registrations pages will be extinct. It feels good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jestebanc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jestebanc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thoughts, but I think friending will always be around. How else can I get in touch with a friend I haven&#039;t see in 10 yrs? Just like my hotmail account won&#039;t be able to search for them and send them an email to say hi, no web site will be able to know my friends unless I already interact with them in the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts, but I think friending will always be around. How else can I get in touch with a friend I haven&#8217;t see in 10 yrs? Just like my hotmail account won&#8217;t be able to search for them and send them an email to say hi, no web site will be able to know my friends unless I already interact with them in the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Youth Trust - The 6 ways brands lose and abuse it &#124; mobileYouth - youth marketing mobile culture research</title>
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		<dc:creator>Youth Trust - The 6 ways brands lose and abuse it &#124; mobileYouth - youth marketing mobile culture research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] against you.* (2) Saying not doing: You focused on saying rather than doing, eg: you assumed that saying your were friends meant you were friends (eg Facebook) . Can brands be friends? A common moot point; Blyk seems to think so. It&#8217;ll work if the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] against you.* (2) Saying not doing: You focused on saying rather than doing, eg: you assumed that saying your were friends meant you were friends (eg Facebook) . Can brands be friends? A common moot point; Blyk seems to think so. It&#8217;ll work if the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua-Michéle Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua-Michéle Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To build on this conversation - I think it is a mistake to get locked into arguments over whether individual examples will be acceptable based on current social norms - the overall direction of what Jeremiah calls &quot;the intelligent web&quot; and, unless I am mistaken, has long been called the &quot;semantic web&quot; is clear: our input into the web is instructional - and indicative of our behavior, preferences etc. As computing power grows this massive amount of data is being used to provide a richer and more predictive set of services.  As these service offerings grow, we will take advantage of them.  As we take advantage of them - our expectations will change regarding identity, privacy and our sense of independence from machine-mediated living etc.

Also, it is a big mistake to argue from current cultural norms (esp. citing &quot;human nature&quot; since I am not sure anyone believes that cultural is not a flexible construct that evolves based on environmental factors).  If anyone had told us in the 60s that our society would accept the lack of privacy inherent in the Internet today (At any moment the system knows what you have purchased, where you are (if you have a GPS phone, what you have watched on TV, not to mention every click you have made on the web, your friends on social networks, your job history etc.) I am sure we would have thought this was a description of Stalinist Russia... 
Social norms are shifting rapidly and we are becoming more accustomed to an Internet-intermediated life... 

Here is a great video that, if you haven&#039;t seen it, tells the &quot;we are teaching the machine&quot; story very well.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE 
Stick with the video - the payoff is worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To build on this conversation &#8211; I think it is a mistake to get locked into arguments over whether individual examples will be acceptable based on current social norms &#8211; the overall direction of what Jeremiah calls &#8220;the intelligent web&#8221; and, unless I am mistaken, has long been called the &#8220;semantic web&#8221; is clear: our input into the web is instructional &#8211; and indicative of our behavior, preferences etc. As computing power grows this massive amount of data is being used to provide a richer and more predictive set of services.  As these service offerings grow, we will take advantage of them.  As we take advantage of them &#8211; our expectations will change regarding identity, privacy and our sense of independence from machine-mediated living etc.</p>
<p>Also, it is a big mistake to argue from current cultural norms (esp. citing &#8220;human nature&#8221; since I am not sure anyone believes that cultural is not a flexible construct that evolves based on environmental factors).  If anyone had told us in the 60s that our society would accept the lack of privacy inherent in the Internet today (At any moment the system knows what you have purchased, where you are (if you have a GPS phone, what you have watched on TV, not to mention every click you have made on the web, your friends on social networks, your job history etc.) I am sure we would have thought this was a description of Stalinist Russia&#8230;<br />
Social norms are shifting rapidly and we are becoming more accustomed to an Internet-intermediated life&#8230; </p>
<p>Here is a great video that, if you haven&#8217;t seen it, tells the &#8220;we are teaching the machine&#8221; story very well.  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE</a><br />
Stick with the video &#8211; the payoff is worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Galpin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Galpin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

This is really interesting stuff.

In my mind this relates to Project VRM (http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Main_Page) and the notion that we can use The System to our advantage in many ways - taking our relationships with us wherever we go and also consuming information from companies, people etc based on our interests/ friendships that The System know&#039;s about based on what we&#039;ve been doing online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>This is really interesting stuff.</p>
<p>In my mind this relates to Project VRM (<a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Main_Page</a>) and the notion that we can use The System to our advantage in many ways &#8211; taking our relationships with us wherever we go and also consuming information from companies, people etc based on our interests/ friendships that The System know&#8217;s about based on what we&#8217;ve been doing online.</p>
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		<title>By: John Gerzema</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Gerzema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I wonder how this applies in a given culture. Will friending become more intuitive in societies where a social network already tips into the overall population? If you think about CyWorld, for example, 45 million Koreans (or 1/3 of the population of South Korea) are members. Does this mean they will converge faster and think more similarly about politics, religion or social issues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I wonder how this applies in a given culture. Will friending become more intuitive in societies where a social network already tips into the overall population? If you think about CyWorld, for example, 45 million Koreans (or 1/3 of the population of South Korea) are members. Does this mean they will converge faster and think more similarly about politics, religion or social issues?</p>
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		<title>By: Links 30-09-08 &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links 30-09-08 &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Why ‘Friending’ Will Be Obsolete - Jeremiah Owyang Every few days, (or hours) you probably get a friend request of some sort, the good news is, someday, this will not be relevant. [...]</description>
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