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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s after the Social Web?</title>
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	<description>Jeremiah Owyang discusses how web tools and social media enable companies to connect with customers</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Top 40 + 200 Blog Posts on Social Media Spotlight Ideas</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1138498</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Top 40 + 200 Blog Posts on Social Media Spotlight Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What&#8217;s after the Social Web? - Web Strategy by Jeremiah &#8211; Sep &#8216;08 [...]</description>
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<p>[...] What&#8217;s after the Social Web? &#8211; Web Strategy by Jeremiah &#8211; Sep &#8216;08 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: StephanJade</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1130600</link>
		<dc:creator>StephanJade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post as for me. It would be great to read a bit more about this theme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post as for me. It would be great to read a bit more about this theme.</p>
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		<title>By: Connect Collaborate Communicate &#187; Rediscovering Web 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connect Collaborate Communicate &#187; Rediscovering Web 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] forward ideas and directions I can and do subscribe to. Thank you Jeremiah Owyang for your blog What’s after the Social Web? for pointing me back to [...]</description>
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<p>[...] forward ideas and directions I can and do subscribe to. Thank you Jeremiah Owyang for your blog What’s after the Social Web? for pointing me back to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Conference Dashboard: Vermont 3.0 Creative/Tech Jam &#124; Real Estate Internet Marketing by Union Street Media</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-686860</link>
		<dc:creator>Conference Dashboard: Vermont 3.0 Creative/Tech Jam &#124; Real Estate Internet Marketing by Union Street Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/#comment-686860</guid>
		<description>[...] Yeah, so the whole Web 2.0 thing is old as dirt and probably not helpful. And I won&#8217;t claim to have any special understanding into why this conference is called Vermont 3.0 but my guess is that it is tongue-in-cheek. What I do know is that everyone had a blast last year. And it was a great time for tech/geek pros to hang out, jobseekers of all ages to see what sort of tech and creative jobs were available in the Green Mountain State and for connections to be made. If you want some serious thinking about a &#8220;web 3.0&#8243; you&#8217;ll have to read cleverer minds than mine. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Yeah, so the whole Web 2.0 thing is old as dirt and probably not helpful. And I won&#8217;t claim to have any special understanding into why this conference is called Vermont 3.0 but my guess is that it is tongue-in-cheek. What I do know is that everyone had a blast last year. And it was a great time for tech/geek pros to hang out, jobseekers of all ages to see what sort of tech and creative jobs were available in the Green Mountain State and for connections to be made. If you want some serious thinking about a &#8220;web 3.0&#8243; you&#8217;ll have to read cleverer minds than mine. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El futuro de la web social puede no ser social &#171; Una cosa más &#8230; o dospuntocero</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-683328</link>
		<dc:creator>El futuro de la web social puede no ser social &#171; Una cosa más &#8230; o dospuntocero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Owyang en el artículo What’s after the Social Web? recopila una información muy interesante sobre lo que podría ser el futuro de la web [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Owyang en el artículo What’s after the Social Web? recopila una información muy interesante sobre lo que podría ser el futuro de la web [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rediscovering Web 2.0 &#124; claremunn.com</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-682292</link>
		<dc:creator>Rediscovering Web 2.0 &#124; claremunn.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] forward ideas and directions I can and do subscribe to. Thank you Jeremiah Owyang for your blog What’s after the Social Web? for pointing me back to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hyperdanja &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-09-29</title>
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		<dc:creator>hyperdanja &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-09-29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What’s after the Social Web? for the morning [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Liu</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680970</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremiah, if you want to know the future beyond Web 2.0, look no further than Nova Spivak&#039;s preso at http://thenextweb.org/2008/06/03/video-nova-spivack-making-sense-of-the-semantic-web.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah, if you want to know the future beyond Web 2.0, look no further than Nova Spivak&#8217;s preso at <a href="http://thenextweb.org/2008/06/03/video-nova-spivack-making-sense-of-the-semantic-web" rel="nofollow">http://thenextweb.org/2008/06/03/video-nova-spivack-making-sense-of-the-semantic-web</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Alasdair Munn</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680664</link>
		<dc:creator>Alasdair Munn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For so many people, some ‘social media experts’ included, social media belongs ‘out there’. People talk about the next big social networking site, or social media app. I saw this quote the other day, “how can you talk about social media and not talk about twitter?” 

As you say Jeremiah, not everyone is going to be a social participant. For some organizations using bolt on social media tools and applications is not relevant or does not make sense. There are some people and organizations that are participating in outward facing social media that never should be. Some are doing themselves more harm than good. 

What social media and social networking sites have given us are a set of tools and applications that have application and uses beyond their current high profile or commercial forms. For example, people talk about using twitter as a business tool rather than thinking about creating a searchable organizational database of collaborative conversations. 

Tracking, tagging and measuring tools are all part of social media, yet they do not have to be attached to an outward facing social network. Integrating your CMS, LMS and social media elements can turn websites into business tools if you apply them in relation to your unique business rules, goals and needs. 

Through using social media elements we are already ensuring that our websites are not destinations, rather, centres from which information, tools and applications are sent to where they are needed, be they on a mobile device, a 10 foot interface or a social networking site. Social media tools allow us to manage our business on the move or in multiple locations. 

There is a shift towards whole system thinking, integrating all elements of a business and allowing all this to be where it needs to be. 

Social media is far more than connecting with like-minded people. 

http://twitter.com/ajmunn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For so many people, some ‘social media experts’ included, social media belongs ‘out there’. People talk about the next big social networking site, or social media app. I saw this quote the other day, “how can you talk about social media and not talk about twitter?” </p>
<p>As you say Jeremiah, not everyone is going to be a social participant. For some organizations using bolt on social media tools and applications is not relevant or does not make sense. There are some people and organizations that are participating in outward facing social media that never should be. Some are doing themselves more harm than good. </p>
<p>What social media and social networking sites have given us are a set of tools and applications that have application and uses beyond their current high profile or commercial forms. For example, people talk about using twitter as a business tool rather than thinking about creating a searchable organizational database of collaborative conversations. </p>
<p>Tracking, tagging and measuring tools are all part of social media, yet they do not have to be attached to an outward facing social network. Integrating your CMS, LMS and social media elements can turn websites into business tools if you apply them in relation to your unique business rules, goals and needs. </p>
<p>Through using social media elements we are already ensuring that our websites are not destinations, rather, centres from which information, tools and applications are sent to where they are needed, be they on a mobile device, a 10 foot interface or a social networking site. Social media tools allow us to manage our business on the move or in multiple locations. </p>
<p>There is a shift towards whole system thinking, integrating all elements of a business and allowing all this to be where it needs to be. </p>
<p>Social media is far more than connecting with like-minded people. </p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/ajmunn" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/ajmunn</a></p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely see the same issue with companies in the industry i work in. we serve the nonprofit world ... and I&#039;d say they are even MORE behind the times when it comes to understanding the social-web, social-media, etc ...

It&#039;s exciting to see how the web moves forward. There will always be a challenge to understand and teach those who are not adopting/embracing the reasons why it&#039;s important and how to use it.

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http://twitter.com/franswaa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely see the same issue with companies in the industry i work in. we serve the nonprofit world &#8230; and I&#8217;d say they are even MORE behind the times when it comes to understanding the social-web, social-media, etc &#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s exciting to see how the web moves forward. There will always be a challenge to understand and teach those who are not adopting/embracing the reasons why it&#8217;s important and how to use it.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/franswaa" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/franswaa</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680520</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As enterprises work at adopting Enterprise 2.0, what we have come to call &quot;change management&quot; is also going to change a lot.  Think eOD, and think major changes to how we design and describe knowledge work, design and implement compensation philosophy and practice, design and operate performance management, and grow effective management and leadership.

Though I am loathe to shamelessly self-promote, some of you may find my FASTForward blog post from 9 months ago &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/01/10/will-enterprise-20-drive-management-innovation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Will Enterprise 2.0 Drive Management Innovation?&quot;&lt;/a&gt; of interest and perhaps useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As enterprises work at adopting Enterprise 2.0, what we have come to call &#8220;change management&#8221; is also going to change a lot.  Think eOD, and think major changes to how we design and describe knowledge work, design and implement compensation philosophy and practice, design and operate performance management, and grow effective management and leadership.</p>
<p>Though I am loathe to shamelessly self-promote, some of you may find my FASTForward blog post from 9 months ago <a href="http://www.fastforwardblog.com/2008/01/10/will-enterprise-20-drive-management-innovation/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Will Enterprise 2.0 Drive Management Innovation?&#8221;</a> of interest and perhaps useful.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremiah_owyang</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680456</link>
		<dc:creator>jeremiah_owyang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney, I can&#039;t speak for Tim, but from what I gathered is that he sees a much bigger picture beyond &#039;social media, ajax, and rss&#039;.

Many companies simply don&#039;t know how to embrace the changes, it&#039;s a big move, as it requires internal roles, processes, and budgets. It&#039;s &#039;change management&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney, I can&#8217;t speak for Tim, but from what I gathered is that he sees a much bigger picture beyond &#8217;social media, ajax, and rss&#8217;.</p>
<p>Many companies simply don&#8217;t know how to embrace the changes, it&#8217;s a big move, as it requires internal roles, processes, and budgets. It&#8217;s &#8216;change management&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Rumford</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680455</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Rumford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog post Jeremiah.

I would like to hear in more detail how oreilly thinks that people are using ther term web 2.0 incorrectly.

&quot;large corporations haven’t figured out how to fully embrace the social web –let alone think about what’s next&quot;... Are they afraid of social transparency?

What happens when all of the social comments, thoughts and multimedia content gets aggregated and exposed about their brands in 1 website/page? 

How will they respond to that? Or will they? They have great opportunity; but how will they choose to engage and leverage?

I am curious as to your thoughts.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog post Jeremiah.</p>
<p>I would like to hear in more detail how oreilly thinks that people are using ther term web 2.0 incorrectly.</p>
<p>&#8220;large corporations haven’t figured out how to fully embrace the social web –let alone think about what’s next&#8221;&#8230; Are they afraid of social transparency?</p>
<p>What happens when all of the social comments, thoughts and multimedia content gets aggregated and exposed about their brands in 1 website/page? </p>
<p>How will they respond to that? Or will they? They have great opportunity; but how will they choose to engage and leverage?</p>
<p>I am curious as to your thoughts.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680280</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the social web lacks is a business model.  There is no money connected to the continual back and forth, only non-monetary rewards.

My new product is going to change that, and to paraphrase BTO &quot;you just ain&#039;t seen n-n-n-nothin&#039; yet&quot;  Social media will absolutely explode with a working business model attached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the social web lacks is a business model.  There is no money connected to the continual back and forth, only non-monetary rewards.</p>
<p>My new product is going to change that, and to paraphrase BTO &#8220;you just ain&#8217;t seen n-n-n-nothin&#8217; yet&#8221;  Social media will absolutely explode with a working business model attached.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Woodruff</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680207</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Woodruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re thinking about next-gen web and how we&#039;ll interact with it, you might enjoy this series of posts on StickyFigure: http://tinyurl.com/5jnh5h</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re thinking about next-gen web and how we&#8217;ll interact with it, you might enjoy this series of posts on StickyFigure: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5jnh5h" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5jnh5h</a></p>
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		<title>By: Why &#8216;Friending&#8217; will be an obsolete</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680168</link>
		<dc:creator>Why &#8216;Friending&#8217; will be an obsolete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I posted my thoughts about what&#8217;s next after the social web, and some interesting comments are coming in, take the time to read about it. For now, I&#8217;m [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Are Hegdal on Master Data Management</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680056</link>
		<dc:creator>Are Hegdal on Master Data Management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] These days, the hype concerns the Social Web, but Jeremiah has a larger focus, pointing out that something new will follow after this hype. As he interestingly points out: &#8220;(&#8230;) most of my clients [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lars Teigen</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-680045</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Teigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to get a different perspective on the evolution of the web than the regular social/semantic/web2.0/web3.0 debate, Jeremiah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to get a different perspective on the evolution of the web than the regular social/semantic/web2.0/web3.0 debate, Jeremiah.</p>
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		<title>By: Confederating Social Media &#187; The Buzz Bin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confederating Social Media &#187; The Buzz Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Creating social media strategies for large organizations can be unwieldy. Disparate divisions, brands, product launches, autonomous departments, budgets and line items can give corporate communicators a tough time as they bridge their companies into the social era. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Keenan</title>
		<link>http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2008/09/27/whats-after-the-social-web/comment-page-1/#comment-679860</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Keenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Large corporations should consider social media as part of their U.C. (Unified Communications) strategies.  Start with capturing the social ecosystems inside of the organization first then expand out.  Yammer is a good start.   By capturing their internal conversations with proprietary type twitter/blogging/comment services, companies improve the value of their UC investments. It is more than connecting your workers it is also about capturing the conversation.

Large corporations are embracing UC. It could be the perfect conduit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Large corporations should consider social media as part of their U.C. (Unified Communications) strategies.  Start with capturing the social ecosystems inside of the organization first then expand out.  Yammer is a good start.   By capturing their internal conversations with proprietary type twitter/blogging/comment services, companies improve the value of their UC investments. It is more than connecting your workers it is also about capturing the conversation.</p>
<p>Large corporations are embracing UC. It could be the perfect conduit.</p>
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