Comments on: Web Strategy Field Report: The Hong Kong and China Web Sphere (Part 1 of 4) http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/ Jeremiah Owyang discusses how web tools and social media enable companies to connect with customers Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:12:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: yobosensei http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1145076 yobosensei Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:52:55 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-1145076 This is an example of a mini-homepy from Cyworld. <a href="http://www.cyworld.com/hongchul" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyworld.com/hongchul</a>. Cyworld is the largest social network service in Korea by SK communications Company. Almost every young Korean or celebrity must have a mini-homepy site. You can change the skin, update your mini-blog(like twitter), send a drink to your friend or publish your photos(like facebook). The interface looks like a diary so it's very easy to maneuver. There is a new Cyworld2. I think they are targeting at 25-45yo audience. <br><br>Good site. Keep it the good work. This is an example of a mini-homepy from Cyworld. http://www.cyworld.com/hongchul. Cyworld is the largest social network service in Korea by SK communications Company. Almost every young Korean or celebrity must have a mini-homepy site. You can change the skin, update your mini-blog(like twitter), send a drink to your friend or publish your photos(like facebook). The interface looks like a diary so it's very easy to maneuver. There is a new Cyworld2. I think they are targeting at 25-45yo audience.

Good site. Keep it the good work.

]]> By: jeremiah_owyang http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-189882 jeremiah_owyang Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:38:30 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-189882 Tim here's some other details http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm I dont know the exact stats either. Tim

here’s some other details

http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm

I dont know the exact stats either.

]]> By: Tim http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-189372 Tim Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:41:34 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-189372 "To date, there are more Chinese internet users than all of North America combined" - I'm not sure where this stat comes from. It's incorrect according to CNNIC. In September, Xinhua reported 170-something million internet users in China and CNNIC's last report (from July I think) had a lower estimate than that. USA should have over 210 million according to CNNIC. That's not even to mention adding Canada and Mexico... “To date, there are more Chinese internet users than all of North America combined” – I’m not sure where this stat comes from. It’s incorrect according to CNNIC. In September, Xinhua reported 170-something million internet users in China and CNNIC’s last report (from July I think) had a lower estimate than that. USA should have over 210 million according to CNNIC. That’s not even to mention adding Canada and Mexico…

]]> By: Digging Deeper About China's Internet Usage http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-128151 Digging Deeper About China's Internet Usage Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:54:17 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-128151 [...] Owyang has published a good report for beginners who know nothing about China’s internet market. I questioned the wisdom of going to Hong Kong [...]

[...] Owyang has published a good report for beginners who know nothing about China’s internet market. I questioned the wisdom of going to Hong Kong [...]

]]> By: Jeremiah Owyang’s Field Report on Web in China : China Web2.0 Review http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-127885 Jeremiah Owyang’s Field Report on Web in China : China Web2.0 Review Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:19:46 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-127885 [...] from silicon valley, which makes western people difficult to understand what happened in China. Recent series blog posts by Jeremiah Owyang, senior analyst of Forrester Research, provided some of his learnings on [...]

[...] from silicon valley, which makes western people difficult to understand what happened in China. Recent series blog posts by Jeremiah Owyang, senior analyst of Forrester Research, provided some of his learnings on [...]

]]> By: Web Strategy Field Report: The Hong Kong and China Web Sphere (Part 4 of 4) http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-127159 Web Strategy Field Report: The Hong Kong and China Web Sphere (Part 4 of 4) Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:32:55 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-127159 [...] to other reports | Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 [...]

[...] to other reports | Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 [...]

]]> By: renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll » Blog Archive » Links for 2007-10-01 [del.icio.us] http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-122625 renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll » Blog Archive » Links for 2007-10-01 [del.icio.us] Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:29:06 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-122625 [...] Hong Kong Social Media and Web Scene [...]

[...] Hong Kong Social Media and Web Scene [...]

]]> By: Web Strategy Field Report: The Hong Kong and China Web Sphere (Part 2 of 4) http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-122170 Web Strategy Field Report: The Hong Kong and China Web Sphere (Part 2 of 4) Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:49:52 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-122170 [...] to other reports | Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 [...]

[...] to other reports | Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 [...]

]]> By: Dan Schawbel http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-120301 Dan Schawbel Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:51:30 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-120301 Good insights and research here. I think it would be interesting to compare countries with this research and see how different people react. Good insights and research here. I think it would be interesting to compare countries with this research and see how different people react.

]]> By: StartuPlay http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-120294 StartuPlay Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:43:10 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-120294 By the way, I suggest everyone to read more about alibaba, Jack Ma (and John Wu) - the story is a classical example of how current companies get started in China. John Wu was previously with Yahoo (quite high too, had access to Jerry Yang), but then randomly was introduced to Jack while visiting Beijing with Jerry... By the way, I suggest everyone to read more about alibaba, Jack Ma (and John Wu) – the story is a classical example of how current companies get started in China.

John Wu was previously with Yahoo (quite high too, had access to Jerry Yang), but then randomly was introduced to Jack while visiting Beijing with Jerry…

]]> By: StartuPlay http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-120291 StartuPlay Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:39:01 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-120291 As a fellow China Blogger, I like to see posts here on asia. As far as alibaba, I've actualy had a chance to speak with John Wu, CTO of alibaba, on two occasions (in the Valley and in Beijing). I've written a few posts on that too: <a href="http://startuplay.com/2007/06/08/alibaba-cto-john-wu-the-story-of-taobao-ebay-and-china-internet-boom/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://startuplay.com/tag/alibaba" rel="nofollow">here</a>. In short, there were actually a number of companies (dating back to late 90's) that were in the same business--here in US. However, the businesses just couldn't scale due to corporate structure in America. Few companies controlling mass most productions. Whereas in China there are millions of small companies, each controlling small-to-medium exports. But here is the problem: those Chinese small businesses are local mom-pop businesses with no international staff or sense? So how do they deal with all the english paperwork, internet, etc? They use their children--who are all educated abroad--over the summer when they come back to visit... All of this was inefficient, so when Alibaba established a solid customer support team, they solved a huge problem. In other words, Alibaba's main core is: Customer Support (which I heard takes 9 floors of their Beijing building). They do anything from translating documents to taking pictures on-site at the factories. As a fellow China Blogger, I like to see posts here on asia.

As far as alibaba, I’ve actualy had a chance to speak with John Wu, CTO of alibaba, on two occasions (in the Valley and in Beijing). I’ve written a few posts on that too: here and here.

In short, there were actually a number of companies (dating back to late 90’s) that were in the same business–here in US. However, the businesses just couldn’t scale due to corporate structure in America. Few companies controlling mass most productions. Whereas in China there are millions of small companies, each controlling small-to-medium exports.

But here is the problem: those Chinese small businesses are local mom-pop businesses with no international staff or sense? So how do they deal with all the english paperwork, internet, etc? They use their children–who are all educated abroad–over the summer when they come back to visit… All of this was inefficient, so when Alibaba established a solid customer support team, they solved a huge problem.

In other words, Alibaba’s main core is: Customer Support (which I heard takes 9 floors of their Beijing building). They do anything from translating documents to taking pictures on-site at the factories.

]]> By: jeremiah_owyang http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-120238 jeremiah_owyang Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:28:26 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-120238 Fons, good background info. It's interesting how infrastructure (Broadband to mobile) can impact a web strategy. John, eBay and Yahoo Business were discussed as comparisons but they're still a bit different. Gen, great to see you here, thanks! I checked out the homepy review from Joi, very interesting. Yobosensei, I wonder if we could call a homepy a digital lifestyle aggregator...it sounds similiar Fons, good background info. It’s interesting how infrastructure (Broadband to mobile) can impact a web strategy.

John, eBay and Yahoo Business were discussed as comparisons but they’re still a bit different.

Gen, great to see you here, thanks! I checked out the homepy review from Joi, very interesting.

Yobosensei, I wonder if we could call a homepy a digital lifestyle aggregator…it sounds similiar

]]> By: yobosensei http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-120226 yobosensei Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:53:18 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-120226 This is an example of a mini-homepy from Cyworld. http://www.cyworld.com/hongchul. Cyworld is the largest social network service in Korea by SK communications Company. Almost every young Korean or celebrity must have a mini-homepy site. You can change the skin, update your mini-blog(like twitter), send a drink to your friend or publish your photos(like facebook). The interface looks like a diary so it's very easy to maneuver. There is a new Cyworld2. I think they are targeting at 25-45yo audience. Good site. Keep it the good work. This is an example of a mini-homepy from Cyworld. http://www.cyworld.com/hongchul. Cyworld is the largest social network service in Korea by SK communications Company. Almost every young Korean or celebrity must have a mini-homepy site. You can change the skin, update your mini-blog(like twitter), send a drink to your friend or publish your photos(like facebook). The interface looks like a diary so it’s very easy to maneuver. There is a new Cyworld2. I think they are targeting at 25-45yo audience.

Good site. Keep it the good work.

]]> By: Gen Kanai http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-120188 Gen Kanai Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:24:23 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-120188 Cyworld's hompy's have been popular for quite some time, albeit only in Korea. It seems to be something unique to the Korean Internet and although Cyworld has tried to launch similar services outside of Korea, they have failed to get any traction. Joi wrote about hompys a few years ago. http://joi.ito.com/archives/2005/06/02/korean_bloggers.html Cyworld’s hompy’s have been popular for quite some time, albeit only in Korea. It seems to be something unique to the Korean Internet and although Cyworld has tried to launch similar services outside of Korea, they have failed to get any traction.

Joi wrote about hompys a few years ago.

http://joi.ito.com/archives/2005/06/02/korean_bloggers.html

]]> By: John Guise http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-120187 John Guise Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:20:13 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-120187 Hi Jeremiah I'm not sure to say that it's accurate that the US has no Ali Baba. I used to work for a company in China called Global Sources. It's a B2B marketplace headquartered in Hong Kong and has been around for 36 years (it's also listed on Nasdaq as GSOL). Now not all 36 years have been online, but I believe it still went online before Ali Baba. Ali Baba did however beat it in the B2C market however with Taobao. Global Sources created Global Sources Direct in a joint venture with eBay about two years ago, but as far as I know from talking to my colleagues who are still with the company, it's not doing too well. Hi Jeremiah

I’m not sure to say that it’s accurate that the US has no Ali Baba. I used to work for a company in China called Global Sources. It’s a B2B marketplace headquartered in Hong Kong and has been around for 36 years (it’s also listed on Nasdaq as GSOL). Now not all 36 years have been online, but I believe it still went online before Ali Baba. Ali Baba did however beat it in the B2C market however with Taobao. Global Sources created Global Sources Direct in a joint venture with eBay about two years ago, but as far as I know from talking to my colleagues who are still with the company, it’s not doing too well.

]]> By: Fons Tuinstra http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-120179 Fons Tuinstra Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:58:41 +0000 http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/27/web-strategy-field-report-the-hong-kong-and-china-web-sphere-part-1-of-4/#comment-120179 The percentage of internet users is now slightly over 12 percent, a bit more than ten percent in this huge country. Alibaba has been a big success in China because logistics has traditional been very poor. Apart from Jack Ma at Alibaba doing a great job, the US perhaps did not need an Alibaba. The percentage of internet users is now slightly over 12 percent, a bit more than ten percent in this huge country.
Alibaba has been a big success in China because logistics has traditional been very poor. Apart from Jack Ma at Alibaba doing a great job, the US perhaps did not need an Alibaba.

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