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	<title>Comments on: Forum One Community Roundtable&#8211;Strategies for Community</title>
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	<description>Jeremiah Owyang discusses how web tools and social media enable companies to connect with customers</description>
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		<title>By: Bud Caddell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Caddell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do push our community beyond 1% active participation -- but also, how do we measure the effectiveness of such a campaign? In economics, there&#039;s the Gini coefficient, it measures the distribution of income across a country. We need something that measures the participation distribution. I&#039;ve tried to come up with this metric, but I&#039;d love the crowd&#039;s wisdom:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.passion2publish.com/2007/08/measuring-parti.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.passion2publish.com/2007/08/measurin...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do push our community beyond 1% active participation &#8212; but also, how do we measure the effectiveness of such a campaign? In economics, there&#39;s the Gini coefficient, it measures the distribution of income across a country. We need something that measures the participation distribution. I&#39;ve tried to come up with this metric, but I&#39;d love the crowd&#39;s wisdom:<br /><a href="http://www.passion2publish.com/2007/08/measuring-parti.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.passion2publish.com/2007/08/measurin.." rel="nofollow">http://www.passion2publish.com/2007/08/measurin..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Confluence: Dot Sun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confluence: Dot Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Four Tenets of the Community Manager...&lt;/strong&gt;

Far too many people are scared to implement a moderation system for fear of losing membership or scaring off new members. Moderation is about leadership, and positive leadership leads to positive culture. And at the end of the day,......</description>
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<p><strong>The Four Tenets of the Community Manager&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Far too many people are scared to implement a moderation system for fear of losing membership or scaring off new members. Moderation is about leadership, and positive leadership leads to positive culture. And at the end of the day,&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Online Community Roundtable at SAP - MotiveLab - Social Marketing Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>Online Community Roundtable at SAP - MotiveLab - Social Marketing Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the importance of providing real value to the community as a core ethic to support growth. Jeremiah Owyang, from PodTech, also talked about the importance of rewarding participation—something he does by [...]</description>
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<p>[...] on the importance of providing real value to the community as a core ethic to support growth. Jeremiah Owyang, from PodTech, also talked about the importance of rewarding participation—something he does by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Online Community Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Online Community Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Online Community Roundtable: Wrap up of event at SAP 8/22...&lt;/strong&gt;

I host a local online community networking group in the Bay Area called the Online Community Roundtable. It&#039;s an informal, invitation-based event for local community managers and strategists.

Our latest installment was last night at SAP Labs in Pal...</description>
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<p><strong>Online Community Roundtable: Wrap up of event at SAP 8/22&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I host a local online community networking group in the Bay Area called the Online Community Roundtable. It&#8217;s an informal, invitation-based event for local community managers and strategists.</p>
<p>Our latest installment was last night at SAP Labs in Pal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremiah - Thanks for coming, and for blogging about the event.

The &quot;soft NDA&quot; concept is admittedly pretty half-baked. The rules are (evolving) to essentially be: if someone asked you not to blog about their content or comments, please respect their wishes. The intention is to provide a safe environment for folks to have open and honest discussions, mostly without fear of having their management flip out. It&#039;s not unusual for direct competitors to compare community stats and management practices at the roundtables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah &#8211; Thanks for coming, and for blogging about the event.</p>
<p>The &#8220;soft NDA&#8221; concept is admittedly pretty half-baked. The rules are (evolving) to essentially be: if someone asked you not to blog about their content or comments, please respect their wishes. The intention is to provide a safe environment for folks to have open and honest discussions, mostly without fear of having their management flip out. It&#8217;s not unusual for direct competitors to compare community stats and management practices at the roundtables.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Caddell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Caddell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do push our community beyond 1% active participation -- but also, how do we measure the effectiveness of such a campaign? In economics, there&#039;s the Gini coefficient, it measures the distribution of income across a country. We need something that measures the participation distribution. I&#039;ve tried to come up with this metric, but I&#039;d love the crowd&#039;s wisdom:
http://www.passion2publish.com/2007/08/measuring-parti.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do push our community beyond 1% active participation &#8212; but also, how do we measure the effectiveness of such a campaign? In economics, there&#8217;s the Gini coefficient, it measures the distribution of income across a country. We need something that measures the participation distribution. I&#8217;ve tried to come up with this metric, but I&#8217;d love the crowd&#8217;s wisdom:<br />
<a href="http://www.passion2publish.com/2007/08/measuring-parti.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.passion2publish.com/2007/08/measuring-parti.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jeremiah_owyang</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremiah_owyang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew SOFT NDA means I cant expose specific names or company info without them agreeing to it.

This conference used to have a hard NDA, where no blogging wasn&#039;t allowed.

Why all this?  An open forum where contributors don&#039;t have to worry about being embrassed in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew SOFT NDA means I cant expose specific names or company info without them agreeing to it.</p>
<p>This conference used to have a hard NDA, where no blogging wasn&#8217;t allowed.</p>
<p>Why all this?  An open forum where contributors don&#8217;t have to worry about being embrassed in public.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there would be a very street-level discussion of community, like, 1/3 adores you, 1/3 is fickle, 1/3 is effing insane anonymous dolts.

You&#039;ll never please everyone, those you don&#039;t will antagonize you because they actually hate you or they have nothing better to do.

The other parts really do like you, some will be fantastic leaders.

All community is fleeting. And if community becomes too big, it becomes a society. 150+ usually.

Drama queens and divas emerge, echo chambers form.

Monetization is a moving target.

Some people want to be left alone and anonymous and maybe, participation is bad in a community (the suck-up theory)

And good grief are we the old kids on the block or what?

Okay, back in my hole. Strategize and monetize. heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there would be a very street-level discussion of community, like, 1/3 adores you, 1/3 is fickle, 1/3 is effing insane anonymous dolts.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll never please everyone, those you don&#8217;t will antagonize you because they actually hate you or they have nothing better to do.</p>
<p>The other parts really do like you, some will be fantastic leaders.</p>
<p>All community is fleeting. And if community becomes too big, it becomes a society. 150+ usually.</p>
<p>Drama queens and divas emerge, echo chambers form.</p>
<p>Monetization is a moving target.</p>
<p>Some people want to be left alone and anonymous and maybe, participation is bad in a community (the suck-up theory)</p>
<p>And good grief are we the old kids on the block or what?</p>
<p>Okay, back in my hole. Strategize and monetize. heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to the coverage...and I caught the Innovis website earlier from your twitter update: it is very nice to see a company put contact info for upper management on their website where anyone could go and email the CEO!

Also, I&#039;m new to the web community world... the difference between an NDA and a &#039;soft&#039; NDA is just that you can release content without attribution?

Thanks!
-Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to the coverage&#8230;and I caught the Innovis website earlier from your twitter update: it is very nice to see a company put contact info for upper management on their website where anyone could go and email the CEO!</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m new to the web community world&#8230; the difference between an NDA and a &#8217;soft&#8217; NDA is just that you can release content without attribution?</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
-Andrew</p>
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